Monday, April 23, 2012

Chris Pinto's revelations of Rome-based conspiracies

Chris Pinto just goes on talking in his calm matter-of-fact way knocking the wind out of me with his revelations.  This guy reads, that's why he knows so much.  He has the instincts of a real scholar, a real historian.  He can back up what he says with convincing evidence because he really does know what he's talking about. 

I've lost trust in some other Christian watchmen who rely only on a few current sources, have no sense of context, no sense of history, no "time" to read and therefore behave like a loose cannon shooting everything in sight without discrimination.  It's appalling, for instance, to hear the great men of Christian history and even today's church denounced as "devils" because this ignorant Christian teacher knows nothing about them other than a few quotes he's picked up from some source he doesn't question.   Calvin, Luther, "devils?"  I've read a great deal in both of them and it is clear from their writings that they were able to bring about the Reformation because they saw through the evils of Roman Catholicism and put Protestantism on the solid rock of the Bible.   You can make anybody out to be a devil if you know only a little about some mistakes they made. 

But it's also possible you are trusting in lying propaganda about them and not knowing it.  In this world things are NOT as they seem, and after listening to Chris Pinto for a while and seeing his films I'm more convinced of that than ever. 

On the subject of the Protestant Reformers, he did a series of radio shows in September of last year showing how they've been seriously and irresponsibly misrepresented by some writers today, including Dave Hunt who is otherwise often a good teacher.  [the link isn't exact, you have to find the September shows yourself].  Pinto, who does not identify himself as a Calvinist, nevertheless recognizes that what Calvin taught about predestination and free will that is so often vilified these days is in fact Biblical.  In fact some of us who do identify ourselves as Calvinist do so only because we also recognize that fact -- our real authority is not Calvin at all but the Bible.  I HIGHLY recommend this series of radio shows, some six or eight on this subject. 

And don't dismiss out of hand the possibility that some of this anti-Reformation propaganda is being engineered by Rome.  I've never been much into conspiracy interpretations of history -- usually encountered as wild assertions with little actual proof --  but the evidence Pinto musters for a complex network of interwoven conspiracies that all ultimately derive from Rome through the Jesuits is staggeringly convincing.   Although I view Rome as the seat of the Antichrist as did the Reformers, and working constantly to spread their influence in the world, I don't usually think of this as operating on so many levels and with such organized intent as Pinto shows is the case.   Influencing the minds of Bible-believing Christians is a constant objective for instance, of course under cover, without revealing the Jesuitical source.  They are master propagandists.  Undermining the Protestant Reformation was the original aim of the Jesuit order on its formation. 

Almost everything Pinto discusses comes back to Rome eventually.  All the wars, Hitler and Nazism, Vietnam, waterboarding.  Fox News.  Apostate movements in the Protestant churches.  The Masons the mule carriers for Rome?  The American Revolution a Roman conspiracy?  Along with carefully constructed lies to deny such involvements including recent denials of the Inquisition as ever having existed.  I can't even absorb all this.  I keep having to listen over and over just to get the basics into my head.

When the final Antichrist comes he'll have the Roman Church behind him just as Hitler did, of course with a lot of disinformation and decoys to keep this from being clearly recognized, and a huge huge network of interlocking conspiracies going back centuries and tunneling from the Vatican like a dizzying maze of gopher burrows. 

Don't take my word for it.  I can barely keep all this stuff straight.  Just go hear Chris Pinto.

Thursday, April 5, 2012

What I really don't get about the Rapture

There's more than one thing about it I have a problem with, but the main thing is that I don't see how there can be two different saved bodies of people, two different churches, a church that is raptured before the unfolding of the end times scenarios that are obviously in the wings right now, but others who get saved during those events. It's not so much that I don't see certain scriptural evidences for such an interpretation, although of course the stronger those are the more I'm likely to be persuaded, but it's more that it makes no sense to me that the Church would be with the Lord celebrating the Blessed Hope, safe and secure with Him forever, His Elect, His Bride, His redeemed, while others will come to be saved through terrible sufferings during that same time period and not be part of that company. I really can't make sense of this.

Unfortunately I have no idea who to consult in the hope of answering this question. I've heard teaching from all the different camps and I'm still MOSTLY pre-trib in spite of my questions -- in fact I'm YEARNING for it to happen SOON -- except for worrying about unsaved friends and family. I COULD go back to being post-trib or pre-mill or Rapture = Second Coming except that the last teaching I heard on that was so cock-sure assertive about what I know is not all that clearcut I figured that teacher has WAY too much confidence in his own powers of understanding and not likely to be the one to resolve my doubts.

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Sat 4/7 Heard a radio show on the book of Revelation this morning in which the question above was raised, sort of, and the only answer that was given was that the speakers believe people will be saved after the Rapture, period, no scripture, no consideration of the concern about how there can be two completely separate bodies of believers in Christ, and how we are to understand whatever the distinctions are, etc. Just that the 144,000 Jews that are sealed are evangelists so people will be saved. Oh well.